Watching Law and Order: S.V.U. got me thinking…can one rationalize suicide?
I would've thought it would depend on the individual's situation. If you feel as if the bad is far outweighing the good in your life, then I think it should be your right to consider suicide. You should though consider others in your life, as most of us do not live in vacuums as hermits. I'm not saying this should keep you from suicide, but it is probably good if you at least talk to those you care about, so they will not feel such negative effects after your suicide.
I think the only time suicide is rational is if the person is terminally ill, if your lungs will slowly fill with fluid, if you're gasping to catch every breath, but it never comes, every breath will be petrifying, it will be slow, painful, torturous, then you should be allowed to die.
What do you think?
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I think that, yes, one can rationalize suicide. My views on it have changed over time, but although I believe that no one can play God, I feel for people that feel that there's no longer a reason to live.
I don't really like to touch bases with some of the excuses people come up with like 1. It's a cry for help. Because usually when people cry out for help they try to live long enough to get a response, you know?
I personally don't believe anyone has the right to take their Life, or anyone else's. I'm pro-Life. You never know what changes could be made down the line, so why end it right there like that?
The example you gave about being terminally ill and contemplating it, that's different.
Like euthanasia, that is rational.
I could go on and on, but basically, some excuses could be taken into consideration.
-sasha m!chelle™
Escaping feelings of rejection, hurt, or loss, shame, anger or whatever is not a reason to end your life. And those are usually the excuses people who attempt it have. How can you 'rationalize' with that?
I dont believe in death for unnatural causes, so if every breath kills you, let it. I wouldnt provoke it, but thats 'my' opinion.
Why do you feel like thats okay?
I lost a loved one through suicide. The way i feel about that makes me go with NO- theres no reason 2 excuse making sum one u love spend the rest of their life wondering what they could have done 2 make u rethink taking u away from them forever. theres nothing anyone can say 2 make the pain go away, for sum one 2 kill themselves makes everything that loved them blame themselves, n regret anything they could have done that made u decide 2 go through with it.
Maybe in sum cases were the person is dying, n that will take away the pain, then fine, MAYBE. But u never know.
Its so painful for the ppl they leave behind.
Trust me.
I think the "right" 2 live is not ours to decide. As far as suicide, abortion, death penalty..all that.
Who can really measure life <-> death.
I dont think we, as human beings under the Lord, have ANY 'right' in that department.
But thats just me.
-RB
I meant that I think their should be a criteria that has to be met. I don't think everyone has a right to off themselves.
I'm only making a case for the terminally ill/people with indescribable immense pain that has no cure in sight. Also, if a person does not have any family, who are they hurting in their decision to end their lives? It should be their choice to live with the excruciating pain.
Most suicide cases are a cry for help. It's not ok for some emo to off himself because he got dumped the day he got fired.
*deep* again, I think I like this new approach, although I like ur funny/sarcastic posts, too.
As for suicide, I can agree with *ALL* the comments before mine, I think everyone has a point & that suicide can hardly be rationalized.
*Crys*
It depends. I agree with u Cruz, if it comes down to living in excruciating pain, off yourself.
I know that sounds bad, but I remember a medical case that was huge on tv about a man trying to pull the plug on his wife that had been in a vegetative state for years. I mean, what is she doing but sitting around collecting dust && wasting money? Maybe thats a bit cold, but it goes the same for a person living with a disease that makes their every breath turtorous, its time to go.
But as for some emo guy that just suffered a breakup, like u said, thats not excusable.
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-Jess =)
Suicide? wow, so much for cheering me up on the last post! ((:
I am VERY PR0-LIFE!
I always want to reach out & make someone smile or touch their heart in some way to let them know that I care, and that things will be okay.
So in my my varied opinion, no, there's no rationalizing suicide.
Thats insane!
I can KIND of come to terms with someone being "eased" to sleep like euthanasia like sasha michelle said, but even then, what if there's still a chance that the person could be cured/help?
That's probably the only IF I can come up with.
Good topic. =)
Sorry to be cynical, but what will *talking* to ur loved ones about it really do? So its ok to talk it out first? uh..?
So we have the *right* to consider it but not do it? Not that Im FOR it, but its like saying women have the right to THINK about killing their unborn child, but not actually go through with it. im just confused as far as that goes because ur not so clear about it. but then again u say it wont keep u from attempting suicide, so talk it through to people before you actually go ahead and off yourself..
sending mixed messages or what?
Ever been around someone who doesn't want to hurt anymore? You have NO idea what they're going through.
I knew someone who suffered with throat cancer. He had to grow through multiple surgeries, spending months and months sitting up in a chair while unable to lie down to rest or sleep. All he could do is manage a little nap every now and then only to wake to the re-connection of bottled nutrients to his feeding tube. The tumor in his throat is growing bigger and bigger and he waits patiently until it grows big enough to cut off his air supply. And if your 'loved ones' really do love you, then they wouldn’t dispute the idea of ending their pain.
There should be a stipulation where patients who are terminally ill could avoid painfully horrific suffering.
Once AGAIN, i'm suggesting the idea only for the terminally ill/people suffering with an immense amount of pain.
I think that you had a really valid point in saying that you don't agree with suicide as a "whole" but you understand the exception would be someone suffering in the way that you've explained.
-Kudos.
Keep thinking the way you do, we need more people to do the same! =)
~Nessa~
I have heard many times "to follow through with suicide takes guts". I reality I think it is the crowd way out. I takes courage to fix what you think is so wrong that you can't bear with it any longer!
Not even in the moments that you think you a facing death in the eyes it is right because you never know what miracle might be working in your favor so why ended before you time is do. You gash for those last breathe and all of a studden your lung fill up with oxygen and you are alive again. What would have had happen then if you decided it was the end for you.
I would chose to fight for my life I would never think of taking the easy way out but hey that is me. Life is pain and we have lived a life time of pain what would it matter if we live a few more seconds of it.
It's easy for someone to say that choosing to end your life is cowardly. That's simple. But until you're suffering with slow never ending pain...I can't agree with you. Not until you go through what a terminally ill person with nothing to live for goes through. Not until you know death is for certain in the immediate future.
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